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Adrie Atticus
Shadows of Rebellion
The Bastion
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Posted - 2014.12.09 15:45:43 -
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Quadima wrote:So I'm not the only one....
THE
UI
IS
CAUSING
HEADACHES
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Whoever designed that blurry color changing piece of crap needs to be fired.
Also the person that approved it !
Seriously, CCP, NOBODY in that company of yours reported in all the weeks of testing that these new "wonderful" UI features are messing with our eyes/heads? Bloody hell.
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Also in the news. RIP Vindicator being awesome :(
I felt nauseated after first 30 minutes on live version, wheere I could spend an hour on SiSi without issues. I've now tried to play for an hour and I've vomited once. Not in my head, I mean literal expulsion of stomach contents.
Unless the UI gets all the blinking windown when focused, losing focus and just turning your camera removed, I have to consider stopping. |
Adrie Atticus
Shadows of Rebellion
The Bastion
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Posted - 2014.12.09 16:31:33 -
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CCP Darwin wrote:Ni Mohna wrote:Where's the creativity in this? No color, no look, no feel, no life... it's just this flat, ugly, lifeless, 90's style interface that makes things harder to see and distinguish. There is no useability advantage to this, what so ever. Removing color does remove one of the elements people use to distinguish icons. However, relying on color for icons to be distinguishable is a questionable UI design strategy because it relies on users having good color acuity. Here are some of our old Neocom icons, viewed up-close. I hope you'll agree that these designs are too busy to distinguish by outline and carry virtually no semantic meaning. This is one major issue the new UI icons were intended to address. [img]http://i.imgur.com/SlCWOYI.png[/img] Please keep the feedback coming, though. If you tremendously prefer the old icons, please explain why, so that even if they don't return, your input can help us shape future iteration.
Please remove the gaining/losing focus on a window causing it to shift in colour, it is causing headaches and nausea on multiple players. Not mild, severe. |
Adrie Atticus
Shadows of Rebellion
The Bastion
643
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Posted - 2014.12.09 16:53:45 -
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Tenshiel wrote:
one word:
aspirin
*smacking forehead to wall*
NEVER *thunk*
EVER *thunk*
VISIT *thunk*
EVE FORUMS *thunk*
So your solution to all of the problems is medicating yourself out of it instead of fixing them? |
Adrie Atticus
Shadows of Rebellion
The Bastion
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Posted - 2014.12.09 20:01:09 -
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Yonis Kador wrote:"My kid played your game in the last 4 hours and I found him on the floor with foam on his mouth"
This is the same drama people were screaming when the jump animation was added. Lawsuits! Seizures! Get a grip. If the slight fading of a box is going to send you into a mouth-foaming seizure, EVE isn't the game for you. The jump animation is far more disorienting. How does someone who faints at a box fading even play this game? Or operate in a fleet? If some guy in a battle is going to fall out of his chair at the first sight of flashing lights, I hope he's on someone else's team. EVE is filled with dizzying effects and flashing elements. The fading UI box should be the least of your worries. Imo.
At no point in the past has 40% of you screen kept changing color every second when you operate in space. I've never had any issues with the camera shake in warp or with the jump animation at all, but this new changing of colours constantly in a pulsating matter when I pan the camera is causing issues. Also, contrast of colours is worse than previous, a 100% red or 100% green in straight black is way less readable than on the old 65% gray background.
I want to play the game and keep my eyes on parts which matter, I don't want the UI to distract the eye from points of interest; this is exactly what is happening now. If there was a choice to just remove the color changes from any and all elements depending if they're active or not I'll get used to everything else. If you think this is fully lip service and just extrapolated crying then I hope something really bad happens to you and causes you much harm (in game). |
Adrie Atticus
Shadows of Rebellion
The Bastion
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Posted - 2014.12.10 08:30:58 -
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Primary This Rifter wrote:That guy who's claiming that the EVE player base as a whole must be really upset about the UI change isn't really taking into account the fact that people are always much more likely to voice their displeasure over a change than their approval.
But the same works in reverse; the less complaints you get, the higher the quality of the finished product. Why are we stating basic marketing here, I thought we were supposed to have brains engaged in here? |
Adrie Atticus
Shadows of Rebellion
The Bastion
665
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Posted - 2014.12.10 12:07:40 -
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Greygal wrote:Completely forgot to mention in my prior post... but whatever you did to the selected items window, PLEASE fix it back! There are no buttons on the Selected Items window anymore, or at least, none that I can see! You have to select something on the overview, then the relevant icons are highlighted (nice and crisp white), but until you select something, you can't actually see any of the icons! I could write a wall of text about how much this greatly interferes with gameplay and usability, if you want me to... This is how the Selected Items window looks to me right now - this is using Carbon theme, no transparency, blur off: http://i.gyazo.com/e06171ad9d96d239a0c481948dc094dd.png
Needless to say, that's suboptimal ...
Here's the thing: I can see those icons just fine because one of my monitors has proper calibration and uses an IPS panel. The TN panel on the other side just displays black. I can assure you that there is an icon which has about 3% white in it to make it barely visible.
It's **** design and expects everyone to sport $500+ monitors. |
Adrie Atticus
Shadows of Rebellion
The Bastion
665
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Posted - 2014.12.10 12:21:27 -
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Oraac Ensor wrote:Greygal wrote:Completely forgot to mention in my prior post... but whatever you did to the selected items window, PLEASE fix it back! There are no buttons on the Selected Items window anymore, or at least, none that I can see! You have to select something on the overview, then the relevant icons are highlighted (nice and crisp white), but until you select something, you can't actually see any of the icons! I could write a wall of text about how much this greatly interferes with gameplay and usability, if you want me to... This is how the Selected Items window looks to me right now - this is using Carbon theme, no transparency, blur off: http://i.gyazo.com/e06171ad9d96d239a0c481948dc094dd.png
Needless to say, that's suboptimal ... Why would you need to see icons that you can't use? When you select an item all the icons that can act on that item get highlighted (the others are there if you look hard enough, leastways they are on my screen).
Because the icon row isn't static and changes depending on what is selected. If you expect the targeting reticle to be on the same location every time, you will be clicking past it when you target different things. |
Adrie Atticus
Shadows of Rebellion
The Bastion
669
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Posted - 2014.12.11 15:53:27 -
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Posting here to request for the "focus changes brightness" to be removed from all windows with a checkbox. After this, could we get Cool Grey back? Reading white text on pitch black background is hell compared to white on a medium grey. |
Adrie Atticus
Shadows of Rebellion
The Bastion
687
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Posted - 2014.12.16 11:20:23 -
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Signal11th wrote:Mara Kell wrote:Signal11th wrote:
Ask yourself this, does the new UI stop you doing anything that you used to do? Simple answer is no, in 3 or 4 weeks you won't even remember the old one, Yes, it's drab and lifeless and looks like some designer found a 90's design book and passed it off as his/her "new" idea but it's what we have so learn to live with it.
Yes it does, i have stopped supplying a big 0.0 tradehub at all because my eyes start to burn when i do market stuff. And since my job is also at the computer i just cannot afford to get hurting burning eyes from my leisure time. I want to remind you that there are "professions" in eve that have to live for hours with the new UI. While for PVE PVP Mining guys the UI is just framework, we producers and traders have to face the UI fullscreen for hours. Im sorry for all the newbros in our homesystem now having to buy their toys for a higher price or not getting them at all, but im not going to risk my job or my personal health for a game just because someone of the Dev thinks the game needs a flashy new UI. Oh well .......I'm going to ask...Can I have your stuff then?  I say this because you can complain all you want but I doubt it will not get changed basically for the fact that not enough people are complaining about it. You may think that this is a lot of people but it isn't compared to some of the old outrage on the forums. Personally as I've mentioned before, after a brief moment of WTF is this junk I actually don't mind the UI anymore hasn't stopped me doing one thing I usually do.
Because something doesn't affect you and has an easy fix, it doesn't mean you should belittle those with the issue. If we can just get rid of the changing opacity/brightness of a selected window and keep all the windows as "always selected" so that there isn't 100% white text on 100% black background you'd have 99% of the issues gone.
This isn't about how the UI feels, not how it works. It's about how contrast works and that's it. If they implement the change, you would not see a single thing changing in the UI at your end but those who need it wouldn't have ot eat pain killers just to play. As a note, this is how the new UI Actually looks like when you take out the transparency and the blur: http://i.imgur.com/beeLBp8.png and it is painful to look at for hours on end, especially when actions cause 10-20% of your screen to light up brighter and go dark immediately. |
Adrie Atticus
Shadows of Rebellion
The Bastion
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Posted - 2014.12.17 10:10:54 -
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This is the simplest I can make this: http://imgur.com/GOuElfq
Top is harder on your eyes, bottom is more lenient. As a bonus it's easier to read because the contrast between the text and background is not as acute.
Implement windows to have permanently this setting and stop them from changing colours every time I turn the camera or focus them please. |
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